[ Pobierz caÅ‚ość w formacie PDF ] spending grows enormously every year. This truth is known to everyone. C. Vance. Spending is growing, but not in real terms. A.A. Gromyko. We are speaking about the real budget. C. Vance. From the point of view of dollars our military budget is growing, but only because of inflation. A.A. Gromyko. I am afraid that now you will start to throw blame at us for not having inflation in our country. In fact the USA military budget is growing both in real and in material terms. You can not cover this with inflation. You spoke further on about the situa- tion in Africa. I must say that in this case a total and crude distortion of the real situa- tion is taking place. If I, discussing this topic, behaved like some of your high rank- ing officials, who let loose with simply in- COLD WAR INTERNATIONAL HISTORY PROJECT BULLETIN 115 You do not know his reasons, who he works for, do you? Many questions arise here. C. Vance. Evidently it does not make much sense to continue this argument. I mentioned these facts only to illustrate dif- ficulties in receiving trustworthy informa- tion. Probably it is one more argument in support of the necessity of having more fre- quent meetings and exchange of opinions between us. A.A.Gromyko. Perhaps. But if on the basis of this type of information, known to be false, a broad campaign, hostile to us, is developed in the USA, then it is another kettle of fish. And if, on top of everything, the government takes part in this process and heats up this campaign, then what conclu- sion should we draw? Really, this is not happening within the four walls of a work- ing study. It is taking place on a national scale. C. Vance. President Carter asked me to find out your opinion of the expediency of carrying out exchange visits of some se- nior military officers from the Soviet Union and the USA. I mean, for example, a meet- ing between the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Head of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces. As for selecting questions for discussion, they can agree on them in advance. A.A.Gromyko. We will discuss this question and inform you about our decision. C. Vance. We start from a belief that such exchanges could demonstrate to the public our readiness to have contacts on all levels. This could even prove, in a way, that we do not aim at confrontation. [sections omitted dealing with SALT II ne- gotiations and Cyprus situation—ed.] During the final meeting with the USA Secretary of State Vance the issue of two Soviet citizens, staff members of the United Nations Secretariat [Valdik] Enger and [Rudolf] Cherniaev, who are being held in a prison in New York City, was discussed. The record of the main contents of this con- versation, which took place in the presence of two interpreters only, is given below. A.A. Gromyko. During this meeting you promised to answer the question we raised about freeing the two Soviet citizens kept in prison by American authorities. C. Vance. I can do that. At the present time we can not undertake any definite ac- tions as far as these two people are con- cerned. I specially got acquainted with the case and am afraid that this matter will have to take its normal course. As for reducing the amount of bail, [State Department official] M[arshall D]. Shulman has already told a representative of the USSR Embassy in the USA that the lawyers of the two mentioned people know how to solve this problem in accordance with American legislation. A.A. Gromyko. I listened your answer with the feeling of regret. What prospects do you see for solving this problem? C. Vance. I think that a legal proceed- ing will take place, and when it’s over we will see what we can do. A.A. Gromyko. I will not repeat what I have already said on this account, not to waste time. You are familiar with every- thing I said about our attitude to such a de- velopment of events and about possible con- sequences. I want to inform you that we found and confiscated more than 50 bugging devices which were functioning in different Soviet institutions in the USA — in Washington, D.C., in New York, in San Francisco. I will give you the materials connected with this [ Pobierz caÅ‚ość w formacie PDF ] zanotowane.pl doc.pisz.pl pdf.pisz.pl blacksoulman.xlx.pl